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This might sound ridiculous but some of the most advanced civilization builders I’ve played have been mods (custom games) of old Warcraft 3. Those include Genesis of Empires 1 and 2. Although they don’t have quite the logistic mechanics you ask for, they do scratch an itch. However, some of them are rendered broken by recent updates. Heroes and Empires also comes close, but the city building mechanics of Genesis are unparalleled in my experiences. Essentially a sim city like game with war mechanics that are rooted into how your society responds to your control. Unfortunately it wasn’t very popular since it required a lot of knowledge about how to build your city and manage your army.