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by Nursie 1947 days ago
Massive, sweeping, baseless assertions there.
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Yes but what do you want on this topic? Speculating about immortality is also baseless.
Speculation is indeed somewhat baseless, however I think it's a bit off to attribute all joy in the world to kids!
Not all of the joy, but a lot of it. My dad was born in a village in Bangladesh. Like a real village. They practiced subsistence agriculture and didn’t get electricity until the 1990s. One out of every three children died before age 5. They lacked of everything a typical child-free American would need to consider life tolerable. But believe it or not, most were pretty happy.

As of 2016, the average income in Bangladesh was around $2/day: https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/bangladesh/annual-hous....

The same year, 66% of people reported they were “very happy” with their life. https://www.thedailystar.net/frontpage/bangladesh-tops-list-.... Sure, Bangladeshis aren’t as happy as Americans. But the average Bangladeshi lives an existence that would drive your typical child-free American to suicidal despair. What do they have?

That's not really supportive of the idea that most joy comes from kids, or that a society without many would be joyless.

I'm not contesting that children can bring joy. I am contesting that they are the only source.

I mean, I think it should be more probable that most people would prefer living longer over not, considering the fact that, at any given moment, most people do prefer to continue living.

That in our society wanting immortality is somehow the "fringe" view (not to mention often depicted as evil) is pretty crazy IMO.