[bfung]

any of them write a more successful language than Java? or how about Visual Basic even? For all the complaints, at least Java moved programming technology to another level on a massive scale, lest we all be complaining about C/C++ still.

[anonymoushn]

Java seems to be mostly a step backwards from C++ in terms of expressiveness, with kludges here and there to hide the fact. Because the kludges are very slow, I have had significantly less luck optimizing Java than C++.

[seanp2k]

C / C++ are fun :)

[younata]

Indeed. I implemented a linked list in C the other day, and it's the most fun I've had programming in years.

as an aside, I feel old being able to talk about having programmed for years.

[VB6_Foreverr]

Coding in VB6 keeps you forever young

[younata]

oh, gods, BASIC.

my first programming experience was in unstructured BASIC. I think I've managed to reverse the brain damage from that, but I can't be too sure.