[michaelmrose]

Do you have a source that isn't so deficient? The home page is a weather website which doesn't state who is behind the site or how they collected their data. When I see numbers without information about how they arrived at them I just naturally assumed they made up whatever numbers aligned with their ideology and since its from AK I'm assuming this is a conservative one.

If you can't vouch for a source then using it to make a point is wasting your time and mine.

[MFogleman]

The data wasn't to prove a point. The data was there as an example that you can construe different results from the same data. Given that data, you can make claims of "safety" quoting a lower murder rate, disregarding other factors such as improvements in emergency medical services and treatment of major wounds.

I'm not asserting whether things are safer or not. Im asserting that judging "safer" cannot be accurately done with metrics such as "murder rate".