[kenjackson]

I think that does often happen the way you described, but not in this case.

First, to be a dev using the MSFT stack, as I'm sure you know, you learn a new technology every week -- so they're not against learning new things :-)

But more importantly, most of them complaining have used HTML/JS, and many use it regularly for the web side of the house. It's not an obscure language/Fx that people haven't touched before. They maybe haven't written Angry Bird with it (which BTW, their JS looks like it was machine generated -- anyone know how it was done?), but most know the technology decent enough to comment about it.

[rbanffy]

> most of them complaining have used HTML/JS

Using HTML/JS in Internet Explorer is very different from developing on a platform where HTML/JS application development is fully supported. I have been playing for some time with WebOS development and I am quite happy with it.

Anyway, I seriously doubt .NET will be deprecated anytime soon.

[kenjackson]

Using HTML/JS in Internet Explorer is very different from developing on a platform where HTML/JS application development is fully supported. I have been playing for some time with WebOS development and I am quite happy with it.

This is probably true. But the tooling still leaves a bit to be desired.

I was really excited about WebOS when it first came out, but they just took too long to get the SDK out. I eventually just moved on and haven't gone back. Although I do think the new stuff they're doing looks quite nice.

[rbanffy]

Are you confusing an SDK with an IDE? IIRC, the Palm launched an SDK early on, with a full device emulator. I don't see why an IDE is a basic requirement. I've been on and off IDEs for the past 2000 and, quite frankly, I am perfectly happy with Emacs.

[kenjackson]

No, I was given a Palm Pre (post-release), but didn't have access to the SDK. Here's an article:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9134650/Palm_expects_...

If you were approved you got access, but most didn't. I think jwz ranted about this too. There were all these devs who wanted to write for it, but weren't given access. Eventually I gave the phone back.

General rule, your SDK needs to be done a month before product launch -- unless you're Apple.

[rbanffy]

Odd. I remember getting the SDK very early. Maybe the fact I was a PalmOS developer since ever did play in my favor.

[contextfree]

otoh, since the new app platform is based on IE10, it will have the new CSS3 grid module which seriously solves about half of the day-to-day problems I have with web front-end development.