[plif]

Which car and what did you drive before? And can you quantify how much benefit you see over adaptive cruise / lane assist / etc that is standard on many cars these days?

I agree with your sentiment, just unsure what your point of reference is and how much impact the fancy AI actually has. My car (2017 model) has the features I mentioned from the factory and is great on long trips too.

[cyrux004]

This is a good video somebody did to compare the Toyota's stock system (latest one known as tss 2.0) with Comma Openpilot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5-inxH92wM

[gnicholas]

Yeah the Toyota 2.0 system is pretty lousy. I rented a 2019 RAV4 Hybrid for a road trip from the Bay Area to San Diego. Lane keep assist didn’t work well, even in broad daylight. One of the blind spot monitors was broken (missed a semi that passed us), which was a shocking failure. The adaptive cruise control was good though.

[chairmanwow1]

I didn’t own a car before ;) I rode a bicycle and took the train. Although I would rent cars when driving up to Tahoe or Yosemite.

I would say that the lane-keep systems are pretty conservative. I tend to think of it that those systems help you steer while comma will do it for you.

There’s a huge difference between hands and feet off the steering wheel/pedals and needing to guide it every step of the way.

In particular, I think I tried a VW and a Ford’s lane assist. They would lessen the torque for turning the wheel, but wouldn’t actually make a turn by itself, which has marginal value, but significantly less.