[throwaway894345]

Yes, to be clear, these problems can be worked around (although many such workarounds have their own tradeoffs that must be considered in the context of the rest of your stack as well as your application requirements); I was observing that the defaults are not what I would consider to be production-ready.

[dilyevsky]

I don’t think kubernetes ever promised to be a turnkey system at least outside of cloud. There are many commercial vendors though willing to fill that gap.

[throwaway894345]

> I don’t think kubernetes ever promised to be a turnkey system

No one is arguing that they did.

[fomine3]

Obviously original authors want users to use their cloud.