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by modwest 1957 days ago
Ah yes let’s get bogged down in silly “rationalism” like this. Because of course before you can determine whether they under- or over-use force, you need to determine the _proper_ level of force in each circumstance. And let me tell you it’s going to depend case-by-case! And gosh since it’s so hairy to determine whether something was over- or under-use of force, let’s just broadly leave it up to the officers’ discretion.

Lol. This is exactly how white supremacy & other power structures reinforce themselves

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All this presupposes race is the dominant factor. Sure, it is almost certainly a present trait, but it's rather relevant to identify it as a causative factor.

If profiling blacks is an inappropriate means to discern likelihood of criminality, so too is profiling whites as a means to discern likelihood of over-forced policing.

But everyone is so stuck on the "our side vs your side" nobody seems to remember that skin color determines literally nothing about behavior.

The following traits are almost certainly far more meaningful than skin color:

- age

- gender

- upbringing

- culture

- economic status

- social status

Of course, people will argue that members of groups with particular skin colors generalize to certain tendencies in some of these traits. But that's about as useful as saying "fat is bad for you" or "germs are bad".

Well, yeah, in some instances. But if you treat everything with the nuance of a brick hitting a fly, you're gonna miss the actually important distinctions that could lead to meaningful change.

Sorry, but all this "black vs white" garbage is a load of unscientific, unhelpful, tribalistic hogwash. How about if anyone actually cares, we stop enabling the baloney racial characterizations?

Because the genetics and generalizations are utterly idiotic and useless.

If we aren't supposed to be rational then how can we even argue over things?
I don't even know what "under-use of force" means as a credible measure of... I don't eve know, but apparently they may have not been using enough force