[jdmcd]

> I have the feeling swift never really worked in the server side

Vapor [1] is wonderful to work with and has a large user base. Apple is also putting significant resources into Server Side Swift with Swift NIO [2]. Lots of really cool stuff happening in that ecosystem

[1]: https://vapor.codes [2]: https://github.com/apple/swift-nio

[bsaul]

I don’t think swift’s performance is good enough to really make a dent in that area vs rust/java and C. Nor are its macro-programming ability enough to compete with dynamic (and slow) languages.

Now there’s still go market of « server middleware ». But for that it would need a much higher quality of core libraries, tooling, and a much better concurrency story. Maybe it’ll come with the incoming actors, but somehow i doubt it (the underlying concurrency libraries remaing grand central dispatch, which looks too heavy compared to, for ex, goroutines)