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by forgotmypw17 1956 days ago
It's not dead, it's alive and well on millions of machines still perfectly functional and usable.

There are many developers, and thus services, who are not too lazy to support it. I've been able to achieve compatibility down to IE3, and hoping to go down all the way to 1.0, as a lone developer writing a relatively complex project.

Retro-computing is growing at remarkable rates. But aside from that, there are also people out there using older devices not for the retro-computing cool, but because that's what they have.

Telling them to upgrade is like telling a wheelchair user that they need to upgrade to legs. After all, wheelchair users are probably less than 1% of the population, right?

If I were you, as a developer, I would be just a little bit ashamed and embarrassed of the cop-out attitude displayed in your comment.

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> I've been able to achieve compatibility down to IE3, and hoping to go down all the way to 1.0, as a lone developer writing a relatively complex project.

You are perfectly free to spend you time as you see fit; however, you might notice that many projects are dropping support of old browsers. This frees up developer resources, helps with the writing of cleaner code — e.g. CSS grid as opposed to tables or floats; js modules rather than huge js files or complex bundlers; web components instead of imperative handling of all the update logic — and opens up new possibilities in the browser including the webassembly. This is clearly a win for developers; but it also ends up being a win for users.

Comparing IE usage to wheelchair users is disingenuous and gross. No one is physically unable to move on from Internet explorer 10. Times change, and standards do too.
>No one is physically unable to move on from Internet explorer 10.

Please rethink what you wrote here. You made an ableist and ignorant statement.

There are many, many people out there who are trying to access information resources who, for one reason or another, have no control over what browser they are using.

Corporate users. People with older devices they cannot upgrade. People who don't want to upgrade. People using public computers in libraries, shelters, and other assistance centers. People borrowing someone else's device or with a hand-me-down. People with devices they are emotionally attached to for whatever reason. The list goes on and on.

I don't know about you, but as a developer who likes to think of himself as conscientious, as a developer trying to conquer laziness and over-complexity, as a developer who thinks about users and greater good, I'm not going to consciously write all these users off just because Internet Explorer presents some challenges in writing compatible code.

If you are going down that path, please go to the bathroom, if you are privileged enough to access one, and have a long hard look at yourself in the mirror. Is that really the best you can do?

You're the one making weird ableist statements. You also list a bunch of types of people who aren't anything like disabled people like corporate users or people who don't want to upgrade.

Your holier than thou attitude really isn't welcome at Hacker News. I would prefer it if you didn't comment at all than see a reply like this. I'm so glad I don't have to work with someone like you.