[PragmaticPulp]

Investments are made to fund value creation.

What value did they create?

If the underpinnings of an economy accrue value purely to speculators while devaluing (in BTC-relative terms) actual assets and value creation, it has a major incentive problem.

What’s the one and only thing Bitcoiners want you to do with Bitcoin? Buy. That’s it. Any other use, including spending, is actively discouraged.

[rawtxapp]

The value they created is a currency that's not controlled by a select few people.

[SideburnsOfDoom]

1) Not a currency, 2) Debateable that it's value at all, and 3) "controlled by a select few people" is a remarkably paranoid/conspiracy way to frame that central banking is a necessary function of government.

[rawtxapp]

1) I can use it to transfer monetary value, which is good enough for me, 2) the market puts it's current value at 45k$, 3) doesn't change the fact that central planning has created a very fragile economy.

[SideburnsOfDoom]

Transferring monetary value at only 7 tps, while burning resources like a forest fire.

Visa is not worried.

[rawtxapp]

@sideburns, Visa is not worried because they are going to start offering crypto payments.