[ljm]

Technically DST _is_ accepting that it's going to be dark at different times, and therefore the completely man-made thing that is a clock can be changed a bit to reflect that.

A perfectly human solution really: work around the shift in daylight hours across the year by fiddling with the clocks. The whole thing with schedules and timetables is a self inflicted problem in a post-industrial society, sure, but workarounds are never really meant to be more than a bandaid.

[ghaff]

The problem is that you need to "fiddle with the clocks" in a coordinated way. Schools can't shift around starting times asynchronously with the many businesses where parents work for example.

[davidw]

Yeah. Any sufficiently coordinated schedule change would involve as much headache as clock changes.

[CydeWeys]

More of a headache, even. Sadly, DST is the only good way to have everyone synchronize a schedule change like this.

[ghaff]

Those who argue for eliminating DST but somehow still preserve some form of winter/summer hours are basically arguing for eliminating DST and then recreating it poorly.

You either do DST or you mostly just pick a timezone and stick with it year round.

[CydeWeys]

I like the latter approach: year-round DST. Not even sunlight in the evening is frequently a problem for me, but not enough sunlight in the morning isn't.

[creeble]

People forget that we (the US) actually had year-round DST once - in 1974.

But a couple of kids got hit by buses in the morning, and there went that experiment:

https://www.mercurynews.com/2016/10/30/the-year-daylight-sav...

Edit: got the year wrong!