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by pjc50 1953 days ago
It is basically impossible to get imprisoned in the UK for mere verbal racism, and highly racist opinions are posted in the newspapers all the time. Even the "gas the jews" Nazi dog guy was only fined £800 and it didn't stop him standing for election.
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"only fined £800" for a joke. Might not be prison, but it's still extremely worrying.
Nah, he put a lot of effort into getting a particularly blatant piece of anti-Semitism heavily publicised.

The use of highly selective and unsubstantiated accusations of anti-Semitism is becoming a problem, but not in this case.

He says he never expected it to get farther than a few friends. It went viral without any promotion on his part. Is there any actual evidence it was all some carefully planned sinister plot to spread a few Hitlery catch phrases for some reason and not something done to annoy his girlfriend and amuse his friends or are you making a judgement based on something other than evidence?
> It went viral without any promotion on his part

How many youtube subscribers did he have at the point he posted it?

He subsequently turned it into an "edgy" comedy career, career in politics, and ~1m youtube subscribers across his various channels. Pretty good return on investment.

> spread a few Hitlery catch phrases for some reason

This not an argument in his favor.

> How many youtube subscribers did he have at the point he posted it?

I looked it up. He had all of 400 subscribers when the video was uploaded. He clearly wasn't trying to leverage his massive youtube fanbase at the time. His girlfriend testified in court that her boyfriend wasn't racist. They were both caught off guard by the video's popularity and the response it got from authorities.

She said "I know what kind of person he is. It is just not a very nice thing to say obviously. I didn't think about it being anything other than him annoying me, I didn't think it would have the effect that it did."

> He subsequently turned it into an "edgy" comedy career, career in politics, and ~1m youtube subscribers across his various channels. Pretty good return on investment.

I mean, on one hand he's got more youtube subscribers than ever, but on the other he lost his job and will struggle to get hired for the rest of his life because people will assume he's a racist because of a joke... I'm not sure I'd call that a win exactly, but I can't blame him from trying to make the best of the situation any way that he can. He seems genuinely interested in fighting against what happened to him so that it doesn't happen to others.

> This not an argument in his favor.

That was your theory, although I still can't imagine what you thought the end goal there was. He goes through all that trouble to manufacture and promote a viral video with a couple seconds of hitler in it but for what exactly? If he were a secret nazi and this was all some kind of master plan what is the pay off here?

If you're really without any evidence that the video wasn't just a joke that people took too seriously, why have you accused him of being a racist with a nefarious plan? What kind of evidence do you think a person should have before they make a claim like that about another person?