[Lvl999Noob]

Are there really places that don't observe DST and also don't change their working hours? Just shift the working hours by a few hours when the seasons change. It also gives more granularity for the changes. If 1 week in the whole season is particularly cold, then change the time again for that 1 week.

[majewsky]

That sounds like a huge coordination problem. Those problems are usually solved by some central entity enacting a standard, i.e. government enacting DST.

[Macha]

I assumed this was the norm in places that don't observe DST? Your workday is 9-5, year round, no we're not considering the time the sun sets

[CydeWeys]

> Are there really places that don't observe DST and also don't change their working hours?

Huh? I'll flip the question around on you: What places are there that don't observe DST that do change working hours seasonally, especially in a coordinated way? I haven't heard of any.

[TheRealSteel]

The liquor store I worked in in Australia had longer hours in summer than winter.

[CydeWeys]

Pools and parks have longer opening hours in summer than winter too. That's not really the same thing as DST though; it's orthogonal.

[happyopossum]

> Are there really places that don't observe DST and also don't change their working hours?

Yes, literally every state/province in North America that doesn't observe DST. I don't know what goes on in Europe, but nobody in Arizona for example changes the open/close time of their barbershop, restaurant, or gas station solely due to the time the sun rises...

[bombcar]

Even with DST here we still have "winter hours" for many businesses where it doesn't make sense to be open late (10 PM in summer is still light out, 10 PM in winter, sun set 5-6 hours ago).

[dmurray]

The golf courses are closed when it's too dark, but the offices aren't. You need to close the office a few hours before the golf course, even if your office business isn't strongly dependent on the amount of daylight.

[nerdponx]

Arizona

[SamBam]

Do Arizona banks and post offices and stuff really change their hours in different seasons?

[rwbcxrz]

Nope. There really isn't much reason to. The winters are mild, and Arizona is far enough south that there's still a good amount of daylight in the afternoons, at least compared to the northern parts of the US.

[ghaff]

I suspect that at least some of disconnect over DST is between people living at 40-50 degrees latitude who have short winter days and those living further south.

[GoblinSlayer]

Normally they match winter sunrise and keep it fixed all year long.