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by cromwellian
1951 days ago
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What’s the proof of that? There are enough probe points for them to gather data. For example, iCloud push notifications must give them some data on your activity in apps that they don’t control. They’ll have some idea of the apps you use and how frequently which is enough behavioral data to do targeted advertising if they wanted to in the future. Now you may say that some data collection is unavoidable given the nature of the device (eg push messaging) but that’s often also true of other company’s products. |
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I.e. there is no evidence, anywhere that they do this.
I don’t need to prove a negative. If you’re accusing them of something, provide evidence, otherwise this is just innuendo.
Secondly, even if they do have enough data to infer something about user behavior across websites and third party apps in some future in which we discover they were lying, that isn’t the same thing as intentionally tracking people across websites using explicit identifiers today.
It’s worth pointing out that they are aware of the inference problem and we know they sanitize their logs to alleviate it e.g. by anonymizing IP addresses etc before storage, although we also can reasonably guess that they haven’t achieved this universally yet.
> Now you may say that some data collection is unavoidable given the nature of the device (eg push messaging) but that’s often also true of other company’s products.
This is true, but irrelevant.
Apple discloses what they collect, and there is no double standard in what they are asking others to do.
It’s the claim of a double standard that is complete bullshit.