[klmadfejno]

I do feel rather strongly that we should not persecute people suffering from pedophilia, especially as a lot of it seems to come from suffering from abuse as a kid. That doesn't make you an active child rapist. You may hate that about yourself. Well, at least I assume that to be the case. I can't say I'm familiar with it.

The predictability of something isn't the issue though. It's whether or not something is actually in your control. Being gay is not a choice.

If homosexuality were purely a choice then there would be great perceived harm in allowing gay individuals to influence other individuals to be gay. It's hard to construct examples of this because being gay is not a choice, and any hypotheticals here would come off as very bigoted. There's people in this very thread already jumping on the opportunity to suggest that if it's not all genetic that maybe we're culturally encouraging kids to be trans. Consider for a moment that opinions like this aren't out a desire to oppress people, but fear that kids are being manipulated into sex change operations. That's FALSE, but in an alternate universe where its just a choice... it's arguably true. The harm is dependent on the nature of it. Trans suicide rates are really high. In this INCORRECT alt world where we're 100% its just a choice, people being supportive of trans gender folks look like they're the ones at fault for leading people down a dark path.

> The reason we should be tolerant of homosexuality is because it's as healthy and harmless as heterosexuality,

I agree. But the reason we MUST be tolerant of it is because its an inherent natural part of human nature.

[kgwgk]

Many things that we’re not tolerant of (like rape or murder) may also be an inherent natural part of human nature.

[klmadfejno]

That's a different semantic definition of human nature, and, as an aside, is likely just not accurate. Close relative primates don't murder and rape other primates within their own social group. Rape is a strategy of desperation for males who can't get any and are likely outcasts from an effective group. Social cohesion is really important for survival. There may be coups to be the top dog, but intra community killing is very rare.

[kgwgk]

We don’t tolerate rape and murder between social groups either, do we?