[candiodari]

Sure but let's be honest here. For <50 year olds the odds of getting a serious infection 0.06% to 0.4% (and presumably 1/10th of that if you don't smoke, have decent weight, not currently ill with something else, ...), which has to be multiplied with the infection rate, at best 10%.

So your odds of a negative effect from COVID without vaccine is between 0.04% and 0.006%, and may be much less.

So reasonably you should take this as worth ... roughly a tenth of a car maintenance, in time and cost.

[derekp7]

For me, the big risk is transmitting it to someone I care about.

[Capira]

In Wuhan they tested about 10 Million people and concluded "There were no positive tests amongst 1,174 close contacts of asymptomatic cases".

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w

[taylodl]

If COVID-19 becomes an annual event like the flu then someday you will be in the 50+ group and suddenly this will matter very much to you. Meanwhile you're in the spreader group infecting those who are 50+ such as your parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles and potentially killing them.

[yokaze]

A couple of points:

> your odds of a negative effect from COVID without vaccine is between 0.04% and 0.006%

And with the vaccine, they are 0%. Or sufficiently close enough, that they weren't registered in the large scale studies of various vaccine makers.

> roughly a tenth of a car maintenance, in time and cost

And I get the jab for free with paid leave, so for free in time and cost.

Why? Because the costs for society are evidently high. Most people have friends or relatives, which are in high risk groups (e.g. parents, grand-parents), and they rather do not want to take the risk of being responsible for their premature and rather gruesome death.

[candiodari]

> And with the vaccine, they are 0%. Or sufficiently close enough, that they weren't registered in the large scale studies of various vaccine makers.

No they drop by 60%-80% or so, they don't drop to zero. It depends on the specific vaccin and which "refresh" regimen you choose, and of course on your age (the very young and very old can get as many vaccins as they want, it won't work, and of course immunodeficient patients won't work either)

Or to put it differently: if you have to choose between stopping smoking or getting vaccinated. Stopping smoking is by far the better choice (of course both is still better).

[yokaze]

Moderna: 0 severe cases in the vaccinated group, 11 in the placebo group: https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/peer-reviewed-...

Pfizer/BioNTech: 1 severe case in the vaccinated vs 9 placebo group (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33301246/)

Oxford: 10 hospitalisations all in the control group (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...)