[cecida]

I traveled to SF a number of times with work 2 years ago. I'm not trying to sound like a smug social democratic European, but I couldn't get over the homelessness, the petty vandalism, the rubbish, and the overall air of menace in the place.

[SllX]

This is a fair characterization, particularly for the parts of the city you were likely to see on any business trip. There’s both better and worse in other parts.

[tropdrop]

On an episode of 99pi, I heard even visiting New Yorkers are shocked.

[hindsightbias]

What would your social utopia be like if most of the rest your country and most the rest of the states made homelessness a crime?

Your trying to compare apples to apples. SF is an apple, but the US is one big orange.

[Khaine]

That was my sense as well, when I visited in 2019 for a conference.

My boss said it was like watching the walking dead with 'zombies' everywhere.

[Khaine]

To be clear, its absolutely tragic that 'zombies' are walking around everywhere