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by valenterry 1969 days ago
As a beginner, you don't really have to use Scala's implicits or "infix/dot syntax".

Just like how you don't have to use type annotations, generators, decorators, context managers in python.

Same for libraries.

At some point you will stumble upon a library that forces you to understand them or you even write one yourself, but that is not something that stops you in the beginning.
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random5634 1969 days ago
It does.

Go got this right. If you want to read code, contribute to a large code base, folks will be using the features of the language, including the weird ones. Go has kept things very simple (relatively) in terms of core language. Some things were beyond basic (error handling? no generics?) But boy did it make it easier for contribute and understand code.

def Hi() = "hi" Hi() Hi

Yes, those two variants both work?

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valenterry 1969 days ago
> If you want to read code, contribute to a large code base

Sure, but in that case, is python really beginner friendly? I don't think so. I had the impression we were talking about starting out with the language and building the well-known todo-list to learn the basics.

Also, golang is a rather young language and it will go the way that all languages go: it will get more and more complex because the more experienced developers want to improve their productivity with better language features. Remember the "no generics" thing? Well, now the generics will be added - I predicted this to happen. And just wait, other features will follow...

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random5634 1968 days ago
It was originally. But agreed, less so now.

They've been adding some really more edge / line noise type features. Consider the walrus operator? You can do pretzel magic with this which make figuring out scope and what happened to what difficult.

I love the old way.

with open(…) as f: for line in ...

And I wish they'd just made more things iterable maybe or fixed some of the regex match stuff?

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