[stilisstuk]

Hmmm... I've always found tideverse syntax inelegant. Data.table syntax does more with fewer different words. But it can get a bit convoluted. Any ways: there are different ways to solveing problems and writing code. Should we not encourage this? Otherwise it's just cargo cult again and again.

[bigfudge]

To a point. I’m actually a data table user too, but it’s actually a pain at the moment (and a good example of why tidyverse quality matters) because they broke the integration with reshape and made me rewrite a bunch of guides a while ago. I don’t like to encourage cargo cutting, but to some extent it’s needed as a beginner. Heck, we’re all still cargo culting to some degree unless you also understand the machine code.