[consumer451]

I am very confused here:

> The anti Huawei narrative is entirely political and not based on facts.

Are you saying that there are no security implications in having the CCP build and run your country's digital infrastructure?

[thow-01187]

I believe one of the major reasons why Huawei is so vilified is that it's the first Chinese corporation that not only outprices its Western competitors, but also outtechs and outmanages them. This goes so counter to the Gated Institutional Narrative that cognitive dissonance kicks in - media insist there must surely be something dishonest and fraudulent about Huawei.

Both Ericsson and Nokia barely make any profit, even amidst of what should be a 5G bonanza. They're famous for their perennial layoffs, constant cost-cutting, bland working conditions, outsourcing, infighting, insane level of bureaucracy and proliferation of management positions.

Huawei on the other hand, is well known for paying above-market wages (though long working hours), "poaching" skilled people from competitors, generous employee share scheme, valuing engineering above middle management, contributing to open source projects, and relative freedom their R&D personnel enjoys in tackling technical challenges. And their B2B offerings are the best value. And their consumer electronics is among the best value. And on top of that, they're highly profitable.

Even if you assert there's some secret money pump from CCP to Huawei, you cannot deny the fact that Huawei is a well-oiled machine that delivers. Pump billions into not only Nokia/Ericsson, but also IBM, SAP, HP, Oracle - the money would just get sucked into a black hole with very little to show for it. Huawei is portrayed as evil, because the alternative is to confront our weakness.

[consumer451]

> Huawei is portrayed as evil, because the alternative is to confront our weakness.

While this may be the case with some people with loose morals, don't put your words in my finger tips. I portray all major Chinese corps as the worst possible alternative in most cases because they are backed by a government with modern day concentration camps

I hang in the EU a lot lately. My friend takes corporate groups on tours of various places. She told me of one group from China last year who happened to see European reporting on protests in HK, while they were at a bar. The group's reaction was "what is this a joke? Are they being sarcastic? Is this a movie?" They had no idea what was happening in HK. A couple of them sent messages home to friends/family about the matter and within minutes all of their phones were disabled.

This actually happened. I want that government as far from me as possible.

[onethought]

The HK protests were well covered in mainstream Chinese news. Was this tour from a part of China without TVs?

There was wide National Support for the crackdown on HK protests, it wasn't controversial at all. The government didn't need to censor any of the media.

> I portray all major Chinese corps as the worst possible alternative in most cases because they are backed by a government with modern day concentration camps

So half of Europe and South America have modern day concentration camps, they just call them "Refugee Camps". In other Asia Pacific Countries (including Australia) they have "Immigration Detention Centres" (prisons for the persecuted). In the US they have Gitmo AND immigration detention.

In China they have Work Camps and Re-eduction camps.

I fail to see the moral high ground. Are you from a part of the world I missed?

[consumer451]

> In China they have Work Camps and Re-eduction camps.

OK, I give up being reasonable. Collect your 50 cents.

> I fail to see the moral high ground. Are you from a part of the world I missed?

I am not claiming any moral high ground. In fact, my experience tells me that anyone claiming the moral high ground for one country/race/group over another takes the risk of being a dangerous fool. This side of humanity will be our end if we do not grow out of it very soon.