[officemonkey]

>Well, how many times do you get to suck before they think you don't belong there?

As often as possible. Everything I've ever read about creativity starts with some variation of "Do you want a good idea? First have lots of ideas."

As a manager, I don't have a problem with people "sucking". I have a lot of issues with people being lazy.

[mikecane]

I want to also add: My comment might be misinterpreted to think the person sucking is someone who's incompetent. That's not what I meant at all. But anyone can have a run of plain bad ideas before they strike gold. Or even silver.