[heimatau]

> but what you posted was unsubstantive flamebait

Pointing out that the morals of Google diverging from their founding motto is absolutely substantive.

As for flamebait, to someone whom has an axe to grind, everything is flamebait. Which is something I have zero control over.

> rather to err on the side of posting thoughtfully and substantively.

I did. As for beauty, it's in the eyes of the beholder. Which why I'm standing my ground on what I said. I didn't entice someone. I didn't get into ad hominem. I simply only responded once that I'm pointing out something that is clear to me (hypocrisy of Google's morals).

I already stated how Google diverged from it's original motto. One commenter felt it was unoriginal. Well, I don't live on this website. Also, where are these unproductive expectations coming from? Pointing out that someone is 'unoriginal' isn't engaging anyone to discuss something.

Since speaking plainly isn't getting through.

Let me reason by comparison.

If I'm a 5th grader and the commenter is a professional 12th grader. How is the 5th grader wrong for posting it's opinion? That is clearly substantive and thoughtful, I literally quoted Google's code of ethics page to make my case. The 12th grader should've known better.

If something has been said 100s of times on HN, guess what happens? Typically, it educates the new readers whom haven't seen that information before. Or it gets downvoted into oblivion. Nothing wrong with that and it's self policing.

I believe this type of response, to me, was misplaced and unnecessary.

[pvg]

If you feel the comment was substantive, thoughtful and conducive to interesting discussion, why did you delete it?

[heimatau]

> why did you delete it?

I'll rephrase your question. What is the reason for the deletion of your comment?

Simple. People were flaming. It was getting downvoted and flagged. If the community sends a clear statement (by acting in concert with one another), then I'd prefer not to get downvoted into oblivion. To me, it's not a hill I want to die on. And it was clear that others were misunderstanding. All I can do is communicate my perspective. If someone comes to the conversation with misguided expectations (even if it's a swarm of people), then I'll bow out. It's simple non-violent communication.

[pvg]

That's not what I asked, but maybe I can try to rephrase it. It seems odd to be going to such verbose lengths to defend something you wrote but apparently don't want other people to see.

[heimatau]

> That's not what I asked, but maybe I can try to rephrase it. It seems odd to be going to such verbose lengths to defend something you wrote but apparently don't want other people to see.

I appreciate the attempt at clarity but I don't see a question here.

[pvg]

I think by this point, with your help, I've arrived at the conclusion you were simply embarrassed by what you wrote, thanks.

[heimatau]

> I think by this point, with your help, I've arrived at the conclusion you were simply embarrassed by what you wrote, thanks.

How so? I wasn't embarrassed. I was shocked at the immature reactions.