[ChiefOBrien]

I'm tired of this pro-Wayland horseshit

You have been trying to reinvent the wheel for a decade and splitting the whole community on petty shit like this, halving development effort on an already non-popular platform, and yet you wonder why people are angry. Instead of evolving X11 and deprecating old features to drop tech debt over time, you went and created your snowflake project and paraded over how much more secure your project is when it doesn't have features to this day, features which are working perfectly on X11. This blog post is the epitome of the whole wayland development group's selfishness. You did this thing for yourselves, for your own comfort and feel-good bullshit, not for the whole community. The Linux ecosystem has suffered too much for no good reason, to the detriment of user experience and market share.

[zamadatix]

Eh, if a bunch of X11 devs were tired enough of X11 they decided to drop it for working on Wayland I'm not upset at them for working on what they want to work on rather than what I want them to work on. I'll gladly take reinventing the wheel every 30 years over people dropping out altogether, though if they want to that's fine it's their own time and energy. If they did it for their own reasons instead of the community I'm glad if I still find value in what they made and indifferent if I didn't. It's not like I paid them to make me something or they owe me something.

I do wish tensions about it could be lower. I think there is real damage for all any time they rise.

[ChiefOBrien]

It's not just wayland. For every single thing you can do on linux there exists several hundred different implementations/projects with the same goal of do that thing, and it has led to bad cohesion between system components. Even Microsoft couldn't figure out how to drop Win32 and introduce other safer environments without alienating everyone. How can we expect Linux to survive and become better if we treat everything in it with such a garbage attitude.

[zamadatix]

I mean things have kept on up until this point I see no point in worrying about it falling apart tomorrow for as long as some people are still hacking at things things'll keep getting hacked at. If it ever does stop chugging along at some point it's unfortunate but not something you were owed by some developer yet didn't get. On the other hand if new things keep coming out you can use for free that's great.

Maybe something will drop off but you'll want to come in and support it while you find it worthwhile, that's all anyone else is doing too.