[BoDlulu]

> The value for gamers is debateable at best

I don't have a PC or a console and I can play Cyberpunk - in fact the Stadia controller+Chromecast came free with it (because of a promotion).

[hiptobecubic]

If you didn't previously have a pc or a console, I think most would say you were not a "gamer."

Stadia has huge value to new gamers, but it hasn't done a good job appealing to them.