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by canofbars 1968 days ago
The problem has been crippling the Linux desktop for many years now and it still remains unsolved in X which must indicate that either it is not realistically possible or it is so much work that no one is willing to do it and likely never will.

The transition to Wayland is largely finished now. Electron added support last year and eventually the last of the electron apps will update and everything will be done other than nvidia proprietary driver support.

There are so many minor improvements from wayland that are less noticeable like the lack of screen tearing, the possibility of sandboxing apps.

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Wayland has existed since more than 10 years and it has still not been able to release a usable system. I'm not willing to lose things that I use everyday just because some idiots want to move their windows between screens and see that they don't change their apparent size. Seriously, this is not a crippling problem. You can easily change the size of one program once it is on the desired screen. What kind of savage keeps moving their windows through different screens?
>Wayland has existed since more than 10 years and it has still not been able to release a usable system.

Fedora has has it on by default for about 4 years now and its perfectly usable. I use it every day.

The problem is much more serious than you are explaining. While using X, on my main monitor, UI and text becomes so small I can not even read it or click the icons. I'm not talking about the window size, but the UI and text size. With wayland the app can switch from 200% scale to 100% scale as it crosses the window border. On X you must pick either 100% or 200% and stick with it on all monitors.

My display scalings aren't 100% and 200%, however. They're 125% and 160%.

Can Wayland handle this? If not, what's it really solving?

> Can Wayland handle this?

Yes.

You think that having to close an application in order to move it to a different screen is no big deal, but you think that wayland is lacking critical features? Features more critical than being able to move windows freely?

I really am curious what features you think wayland is lacking. I've been using wayland for years, both using Sway and Gnome, and the thing I've missed the most is xdotool, and perhaps there will be a standardization effort to replicate its functionality securely, but for now it's an understandable omission.

Maybe it's not fair to say that X is broken for mixed-DPI configurations, since I have managed to get it working with X, but it was quite unreliable, whereas on wayland it just works, save for some incompatible electron apps.