[znpy]

well in fairness systemd's task (managing the system) is fairly complex as well.

I am not surprised I had to actually sit down and go through a short course on systemd and read some of the manpages to understand it enough and profit off its presence.

[necrotic_comp]

And that's the rub - it was initially advertised as a quick way to start the system, which is a simple enough concept to understand, then changed its scope to manage the entire system/service land.

It also ended up being tightly coupled, with poorly documented APIs and major bugs, which drew the ire of some longer-term professionals.

I don't think the idea systemd shim layer of services is necessarily bad, but I do think that having its design and implementation centralized within Red Hat isn't the best ; it would be nice if there was a complement to the Linux foundation doing its development, as having the process be managed by someone as competent as respected as Linus would go a long way into quieting the storm around it.

[znpy]

> but I do think that having its design and implementation centralized within Red Hat

oh don't be silly.

systemd's development is not centralized at all.

it's LGPL licensed and its developent happens on github at https://github.com/systemd/systemd -- anybody is free to fork it off to another project -- yet pretty much nobody does, how comes that?