[0df8dkdf]

Hmmm the main issue is not an App Store. It is rather how Android is packaged. There is F-Droid type of store out there, it is just that it is not in the play store. As for iOS there really no proper way to install except jailbreaking any way. The bottom we don't need another App Store, rather a FOSS distribution of OS for Android (e.g: https://www.replicant.us/about.php ) that kind like the Debian distro for desktop Linux. As for iOS, is Darwin still open source, maybe a distro for iPhone with an open source Darwin fork?

[fluidcruft]

F-Droid doesn't enroll as device administrator on your phone. I think Microsoft could easily pull that off if they wanted to which would let them push updates and manage applications the way Google does. My workplace already basically runs BYOD devices through some Microsoft Azure management thing.

[SulfurHexaFluri]

There is an extra thing you can do to make fdroid admin but it requires root. It does allow auto updates though.

[jhasse]

Darwin is only the kernel. iOS is closed-source.

[0df8dkdf]

For sure, the same way Linux is only the kernel. If you ask Stallman, he will say GNU/Linux. ;-)

[jhasse]

yeah, so? Android's user-space is still mostly open-source. What's open-source of iOS is basically useless for developing an alternative OS for iPhones.