[joe_the_user]

I'm against that too...

But I'm also tired of every story like this having a "hey look at this other problem" post at the top.

We have threads here where the problem of US spying are hashed-out. I'm against it in those threads too...

But there's nothing wrong with focusing on this particular Iranian scheme - the Iranians certainly "deserve freedom" as much as anyone else.

My guess is a private Islamic Republic Internet will generally outline the stupidity of the clerics and that anyone's who anyone will want to get the real Internet. IE, it might fly back in their faces.

[cheez]

Just like I am also tired of "hey, at least you're not living in Somalia."

I just don't think that I have any moral right to comment on Iranians and/or their government if I am letting my government do the same.

I guess this is the difference between normal people and politicians.

[joe_the_user]

I just don't think that I have any moral right to comment on Iranians and/or their government if I am letting my government do the same.

Huh? I don't think have a moral right to ignore the oppression of people in other countries. And yes, as an American, it is easier for me to comment on the situation in Iran. And that's why I should - to help people who have a harder time helping themselves.

This is the model of Amnesty International, for example.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amnesty_International

People one country protest repression in another because they can. And yes, Amnesty has looked at quite a number of problematic US actions (and I imagine Canadian actions as well).

[moo]

Thing is you don't know what your talking about. The attacks on Iran are mostly no smarter than "Iran stinky like my diaper.", and the group think up votes that. If enough people really start arguing against the group think then the thread has gone too political and the thread is locked or deleted.