[majormajor]

> Our founding fathers knew power corrupts, but today's 20-somethings seem quite unaware.

The government has to be able to actively respond to the problems of the moment, and those problems will constantly change. A handcuffed government only benefits the already-powerful.

The dirty secrets of the "but the founding fathers!" argument are that (a) they knew they weren't creating a perfect set of rules in the Constitution, and planned for us to be modifying it as we learned new things and the world changes, and (b) it's failed anyway. Abstract principles listed on a page don't "protect freedom," bad actors can find ways to sneak things through (sometimes in plain sight, like that whole slavery thing that took a century to get figured out, or the followup forms of discrimination that are still with us).

[WClayFerguson]

Our founding fathers and subsequent forefathers fought wars to protect our freedoms, and sadly the current generation don't value or even want to preserve that freedom. Good times create weak men, and weak men will happily surrender to Tyranny.

[majormajor]

Some of that "subsequent" group actually even fought a war to prevent some of our freedoms!

There's no weakness in challenging the storybook fable-ized versions of history.

[WClayFerguson]

Well as long as you're on the side if freedom, free speech, small government, capitalism, and patriotism, you're one of the good guys.

I think the biggest "story-telling" that's going on lately is in our schools by our socialist educators.