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Funny you should mention that, I'm watching that too, and I can't wait until that's to the point where it's just as easy and seamless to get something up and running in django or a similar framework, while also having all the advantages of a frontend application and a backend one. Hotwire does look very intriguing to me.

I think overall we need a new wave of backend frameworks with what we've learned in the past decade. I'm hoping it's in python or clojure, but my guess is it's going to be in javascript (see react server components for one potential contender).

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I've been in the NextJS world lately and it's honestly gotten really good. Nowhere near perfect yet but they are clearly on the right track and it's already more than usable.

NextJS+Django is my current stack of choice.