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by ogre_codes 1970 days ago
> Are you sure?

If users are given the option in clear terms, most users will turn off tracking. Facebook knows this, it's why they are so pissed off at Apple and have taken such an aggressive public stance against Apple. Google knows it, it's why they haven't published an update to any of the iPhone apps since Apple started requiring their apps report what end user data they collect.

Google and Facebook are sure... not sure anyone else is more qualified on this.

> If companies could anonymously track users, and still maintain the marketing backbone of the internet I think most people would be fine with it -- in fact, prefer it.

If this were true, why doesn't Google, Facebook, and others give us straight-forward ways to opt out? If people would prefer it, why exactly is Facebook trying so damned hard to prevent Apple from giving people a simple opt out?

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> If this were true, why doesn't Google, Facebook, and others give us straight-forward ways to opt out?

I don't think anyone expected them to just flip the switch and do that without a reasonable (maybe to just them?) alternative I can say, the idea of using 'cohorts' as discussed by this FLOC approach, from what I can tell, is positive progress. Is it far enough? Perhaps not.

> why exactly is Facebook trying so damned hard to prevent Apple from giving people a simple opt out?

Good question. I am not aware of that issue.

I also Question Apple as they take payment from Google to the tune of billions of dollars for search, pushing 'beacons' etc, while promoting themselves a bastion of privacy and security. None of it is as simple as it seems.

> I don't think anyone expected them to just flip the switch and do that without a reasonable (maybe to just them?)

No more than anyone expects a heroin addict to stop cold turkey. The problem is Google isn't stopping or giving people the option to opt out, they are just changing tactics slightly.

This also doesn't really talk about how this data gets integrated into the rest of the profile Google has built and will continue to build on users (without their permission) based on their search history, mapping, email, etc.

Google isn't

> "Google isn't"

Did you accidently clip the rest of your message?

I think I started a paragraph then started it again and forgot to crop the dead end.