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by Eridrus 1971 days ago
Not to say the general approach is bad, but I think the cost side is overplayed. It depends a lot on what the cost/structure of your existing response is, and critically, whether you can actually realize any savings after the shift. Both because it is hard to reduce staffing/infrastructure, but also because many costs are not actually born directly by the city (eg medical costs are born by the hospitals).
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cheph 1971 days ago
> Not to say the general approach is bad, but I think the cost side is overplayed.

Not sure why I, as an immigrant to Europe myself, should pay cover the cost for illegal aliens while I cannot provide properly for my own relatives in my home country. It is unconscionable.

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Eridrus 1971 days ago
We live in an imperfect world with many constraints and trade-offs. Why did you have to emigrate, while others were already born into lucky countries? Why are some people denied the right to emigrate?

Life is various shades of unfair and we're more likely to make a better world if we optimize for well being rather than fairness (of which there are multiple competing and contradictory definitions).

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cheph 1971 days ago
> Why did you have to emigrate, while others were already born into lucky countries?

A lot of people worked very hard to make the place I immigrated from the place it is today, most of them are still there. No luck about it.

> Why are some people denied the right to emigrate?

As far as I know all EU countries give everyone equal rights to immigrate. Maybe you should check your facts.

> Life is various shades of unfair and we're more likely to make a better world if we optimize for well being rather than fairness

How exactly is it optimizing for well being to ignore the corruption, injustice and bad governance in Africa?

Europeans should open their eyes, the world is collapsing around them while they sign treaties with China which is actively destroying Africa while committing genocide in their own country - and Europe does not care. Russia is busy oppressing their own people and it's neighbors while Germany is building a pipeline to them. This behaviour of Europe is pathetic cowardice, grow a backbone. Spending my tax money on illegal immigrants does not make the world fairer.

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