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by throwawaysea 1977 days ago
Did you manufacture your own cell phone? Do you operate your own power utility? I’m guessing “no”. I think it is reasonable to not do everything by oneself. I also think it is reasonable to expect that justice be applied equally between comparable incidents, without being the person meting it out. That said I do appreciate the spirit of self reliance to get things done.

But that’s not what my comment is about. It’s about the unequal treatment and unequal outrage from a variety of actors in our society, when it comes to the political left versus the political right. It’s about valuing things like responsible disclosure. It’s about leaning from history and not repeating the same mistakes when it comes to witch hunts, or censorship, or whatever else.

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They are not comparable actions or situations.

Left-wingers demonstrate for respecting the rights of people who are being denied them and to end biased policing, arguing for greater equality and support for those in need.

From what I've seen of right-wing protests over the last many years, they've demonstrated for restricting the rights of people they don't like, and lately to try and overturn a fair and democratic election.

These are not at all comparable, there is a clear difference in motives and methods.

Your characterization is self serving and false. Kavanaugh was fairly and democratically appointed. The number of participants in that riot was more than double this recent one. There was no justification for it based on your own expectations.

Your claims about biased policing are also false - the allegations of bias in police-involved deaths doesn’t normalize for the amount of crime perpetrated by each racial group. This matters because those who commit crimes at a higher rate are more likely to be engaged with the police and place themselves at higher risk as a result, especially if they try to resist or evade the law. Such allegations of bias also don’t adjust for the fact that almost all people killed by the police were engaging in a crime actively at the time, refusing police orders, and placing others in danger. Commonly quoted metrics don’t account for those who resist arrest versus those who don’t. There are exceptions, and actual incidents of unjust or incorrect policing, but they are incredibly rare. This entire narrative is built on hyperbole and lies like “Hands up Don’t Shoot” (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2015/0...).

But leaving all that aside, you’re explicitly arguing for different laws for different people even though they are all breaking the law as it is written. You believe your causes are completely just and the other side’s causes are unjust - in other words you believe you’re above the law. This unequal application of laws amounts to not believing in the rule of law, fundamentally. And if that’s what you believe in why bother having one country? Why should the political center or political right be part of a “union” that denies them basic justice?

No he wasn't. Trump used claims of a stolen election in order to make that happen.
You are applying false equivalency. The rioters and seditionists on January 6th sought to overturn a fair election by force of violence, by literally invading the capitol and threatening elected officials. Literally no left-wingers have done anything remotely similar in the entire history of the US.

As for your claims about the police, systemic racism is the reason why minorities have more contact with police. They are disadvantaged and marginalised and unfairly policed, because it's easier to beat poor people over the head than to do anything about white collar crime.

The US has a massive over-policing problem and it hits the poor and disadvantaged the hardest: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/half-people-killed-poli...

Defunding the police means for instance sending qualified professionals to mental illness calls, rather than armed police. No reasonable person could argue against this.

Regarding the right's belief that they are denied justice, that is just blatantly false. What they are "denied" is the taking away of the rights of others, which they continually try to do.