[tamentis]

They should totally invent a new port. USB-C is just too standard.

[thebruce87m]

“USB-C” and “standard” don’t belong in the same sentence - I’m dreading the day when I have the “dp alt mode” discussion with my 76 year old mother.

Lightning was a breath of fresh air in the days of the USB 3.0 Micro-B SuperSpeed plug.

[totalZero]

> I’m dreading the day when I have the “dp alt mode” discussion with my 76 year old mother

TB3 is built on native DP, so you probably won't ever need to have that conversation with her.

[melling]

Lightning was released in 2012. It’ll be nine years old in September.

USB-C was released in 2014 and adoption has been very slow, and the standard has had problems.

Remember all the noise when they dropped the 32-pin connector for the much better Lightning?

I’d like a wireless charging solution and no cable.

Of course, I’d also like a global standard that plugs into the wall.

USB-A into the wall and USB-C into the device?

[toast0]

USB-C has almost entirely replaced USB-micro B on mid-high end phones.

The other end of the cable is much harder to replace; there's so much stuff with a USB-A that going USB-C on that side doesn't seem worth it, unless you're deep into Apple.

It would be very unApple, but they could keep a lightning port on one side, and add a USB-C port on the other and kill the lightning port later. Maybe not entirely unApple, they did go through a transition from firewire to usb on iPods with models supporting both for some time.

[Tagbert]

Apple’s recent phones come with cables with USB-C on the power end and Lightning on the phone end.

[totalZero]

> USB-C was released in 2014 and adoption has been very slow, and the standard has had problems.

USB-C adoption has been pretty steady and it's on many devices of various form factors. Apple put USB-C on MacBook in 2015. The Samsung Galaxy S8 came out in 2017 with USB-C. Even my uninterruptible power supply has a USB-C port.

What problems has the standard had, in your estimation?

[melling]

The problems are well documented

https://www.howtogeek.com/353410/3-problems-with-usb-c-you-n...

https://www.dignited.com/28249/usb-c-top-5-issues-usb-c-conn...

[totalZero]

No offense but those are two garbage articles with no substance whatsoever and it's a joke to present them as "well documented" examples of setbacks for USB-C.

The first link is just an ad for AmazonBasics. It complains about bad cables (not unique to USB-C), differences between USB 2 vs 3 (this is true for USB-A and Micro-USB as well, so again it's not unique to USB-C), and then cryptically says "Dongle Hell Is Real" as the third problem with USB-C before talking up the merits of AmazonBasics in the section titled "Your Best Bet is AmazonBasics Cables."

The second link complains about cable quality (solution: buy better cables), missing USB-IF logos (not a functional problem and can also be solved by buying better cables), USB-C adoption (like that's some kind of product characteristic), inconsistent supported features (that's true of any standardized connector used for several different applications), and non-compliant cables.

Of a total of eight complaints, four of them can be resolved by avoiding cheap-o cables, one of them is totally unrelated to the product's technical characteristics, two of them are true of all USB standards. That only leaves "Dongle Hell Is Real."