[frankmcsherry]

> Sounds like basic memoization and topological sort gets you all the way there?

I don't really want to pull rank here, but for the benefit of other readers: 100% nope.

I personally find the "make toxic comments to draw folks out" rhetorical style frustrating, so I'll just leave you with a video from Clojure/conj about how nice it would be to be able to use DD from Clojure, to get a proper reactive Datomic experience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgqFlowyfTA

[simongray]

My comment was basically (paraphrasing here) "given that my understanding of the problem is it that it can be pulled off using simple constructs X and Y, seems like most people wouldn't need to pull in framework Z".

It's puzzling to me why you _wouldn't_ want to "pull rank", as you say. I did not pretend to be an expert in this domain. I'm really just exposing my knowledge and speculating about why people apparently aren't using this framework, which is what the damn submission is about. Did you even read it?

It seems like I managed to piss off a bunch users of the framework, who - rather than simply explain in clear terms why I'm supposedly wrong - instead just downvote away and make passive-aggressive comments that assume I'm some sort of troll.

Remind me to never engage with the Rust community again. Jfc.

Edit: Oh, so you're the creator of the framework? If you go straight to calling people toxic when they have questions about it, I think I understand why no one wants to use it.

[pdimitar]

I completely understand where you're coming from and I've been downvoted for expressing non-popular views here, and I relate to your frustration.

That being said, rest assured that your experience says absolutely nothing about the wider Rust community. It's one of the most helpful ones I've engaged with.

So please don't judge it by one strangely toxic framework creator.

[59nadir]

> That being said, rest assured that your experience says absolutely nothing about the wider Rust community. It's one of the most helpful ones I've engaged with.

It's very common to see people with toxic attitudes in and around the Rust community, even in their internal communication about how to use Rust (`actix-web`, anyone?). I don't think it's helpful to lie to yourself about the Rust community like this.

The only thing Rust users who don't want to have these conversations can do is to openly recognize and talk about the extreme fanaticism Rust users commonly display and the toxic pattern of communication that sometimes is bundled or separate, when it comes to priorities in software dev.

[dgellow]

What is “toxic” about the comment? That sounds like a legitimate question to me.

[bjz_]

From what I see it's the dismissive way it was posed, with little curiosity about the real challenges. Similar to the 'oh I could build that in a weekend' style comments that are pretty exhausting for creators to have to deal with.

[simongray]

This submission is literally about why people aren't using some Rust framework. I add my two cents as to why that might be and then that gets called toxic and dismissive.

Seems like many people here aren't actually willing to engage in a discussion. I guess this submission is basically just native advertisement for the framework in question.

[simongray]

Thank you. I find this assumption of bad faith quite frustrating. Every comment I make in this thread seems to be instantly downvoted.