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by AshWolfy
1967 days ago
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Thats assuming they engage with the logic at all, which is an assumption you cant make > "Acts of terrorism" aren't speech so as soon as they go there they go to jail. preventing terrorism is generally considered better than just arresting people after it happened > But that's why we need free speech, right? To avoid echo chambers. Unless you are suggesting we ban all moderation, no echo chambers form due to selecting information sources you only agree with and information sources pandering > Even if private censorship is allowed, that doesn't make it a good idea if it causes people to leave for some Voat-like cesspool where they won't encounter ordinary people anymore. censorship at least gets rid of the non true believers, the reason stuff like qanon spread so quickly is because they used sites like facebook and twitter and didnt stay in cesspools like 8chan, we cant get everyone but most is better than none |
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Even people with psychological conditions have the capacity to modify their behavior.
> preventing terrorism is generally considered better than just arresting people after it happened
That premise came out of 9/11 when the terrorists didn't care if they died. In ordinary cases such as these you don't need a precrime unit because catching them after the fact provides a deterrent that prevents them from doing it to begin with.
But also, the police already do that. They send under cover officers into extremist groups and get warrants to conduct surveillance on individuals suspected of plotting violence. Then they get arrested for the plotting violence, not for speech.
> Unless you are suggesting we ban all moderation, no echo chambers form due to selecting information sources you only agree with and information sources pandering
The largest sites could exclude only that which is illegal.
> censorship at least gets rid of the non true believers
Until you actually implement it and end up censoring a bunch of stuff which is true, preventing some other lie from being corrected. And then people find out about that happening and lose faith in the censors, start looking for "alternative" media that doesn't do that, and get sucked back into conspiracy theory land.
> the reason stuff like qanon spread so quickly is because they used sites like facebook
The reason it spread so quickly is that Facebook promoted it, because their algorithms reward controversy.
And that's the real problem. If you carry on promoting "engagement" there will just be some new conspiracy theory, which you don't even notice until there are already a million people sucked into it and somebody gets killed. Stop doing that and there is nothing to censor.