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by worik 1980 days ago
" Why should the venue owner pay the musician?"

Because a music venue without musicians insn't

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No, it isn't a music venue without musicians.

But the implied flow of money doesn't follow from that.

Suppose I own an empty space with a little stage, a PA sound system, and some 100 chairs. I put a down payment on this place, paid for equipment and upgrades and have to pay property taxes, utilities and mortgage. If nothing happens there, I lose money out of my own pocket. I intend for it to be a music venue. I meet the definition of a music venue owner.

Some musicians have contacted me and would like to have a concert there.

Should anyone pay anyone? Who should pay whom?

How is this for logic: "A house isn't a home without a family! If you want me to move into this house with my wife and three kids to make it a home, you're gonna have to pay me!"

It depends.

For many musicians it is not a career, but a hobby. A outlet for creativity. (That is me) In which case we choose venues that are like us. Our most recent gig was at our local Musicians Club https://youtu.be/URwzKL8pjQo?t=819

For others it is a important part of their income, so they should be paid.

Who should pay? If the punters pay a door charge the band should get it (that is the tradition here) if not then, yes, the owner of the venue pays it.

Musicians making an income simply have to avoid opportunities that they have outgrown: free jam spaces, open mics, and whatnot.
Generally speaking musicians are the last to get paid and the first to blame.
But a dive bar is a still a dive bar and a casual restaurant still a restaurant...
I disagree with this sentiment. People go to a music venue for the music, they go to a bar for the drinks and a resturant for the food.

If the bar had no drinks, it could hardly be called a bar. Similarly, a resturant with no food is hardly a resturant.

In that meantime, where the reason to go there is missing, these are all just rooms with the potential to be something later. The same goes for the music venue; it's just a big room that could be a music venue if there were actual musicians there.

A dive bar is still a place where people pay for drinks, and not for music.

The "open mic" is on Tuesday nights, because nobody goes there then, so there is no harm to the business, and the people who come to have open mic fun might buy drinks.