[robertlagrant]

> Some people say "I have nothing to hide, I don't care" which is essentialy [sic] ignoring basic human right and making this right worthless to you and very precious to others.

As ever, this isn't to do with rights. The government isn't forcing you to do this. Neither is Google.

[cyphar]

Human rights as a concept exist outside of the US Constitution. Just because something isn't illegal (in the US) doesn't mean it's not morally wrong or something you should not encourage.

[robertlagrant]

Morals and things worth encouraging are not the same as rights in any country (you mentioned the US for some reason, but could be any).

[cyphar]

Human rights exist regardless of the laws of any country. I said US because "the Bill of Rights only constrain government actions" (which is what GP was saying with slightly different phrasing) is a very common talking point from American libertarians. I said "morals and things worth encouraging" to avoid using obvious examples of human rights (to avoid side-tracking the conversation) but okay here are some examples:

Slavery is an obvious and unquestionable violation of a person's human rights -- and that is a true statement regardless of the fact it was not illegal in many countries until the late-1800s (it was a violation of their human rights at the time as well). Same goes for the right to vote -- or if you prefer the right to self-governance -- which was not given to women and minorities until the mid-to-late 1900s. The fact that laws did not grant these people their rights doesn't mean their rights did not exist.

In addition it should be obvious that rights can be taken away by someone who is not an agent of a government. If you enslave someone it is a violation of their human rights regardless of whether it was sanctioned by a government. So (hopefully this was already self-evident) human rights also exist outside of government action.

That was the point I was making.