[hoodoof]

The answer is that you are looking for the wrong sort of person. You are looking for perfection and someone awesome.

You should be trying to find a good junior/graduate and spend your seed money on giving them a full time job.

They will make mistakes, not do it the best way or the right way, but if you work closely with them then SOMETHING will get built, enough to prove your concept in the market. When your concept succeeds then you will have the money to employ someone more expensive to do it right.

Change your expectation and you will then find the right person.

[dmlevi]

Thanks for the insight. We are working the IT department at UChicago so hopefully that will work out for us. We appreciate your input.

[hoodoof]

Universities are not the best source for finding juniors and graduates. Put a job ad on a major job board to find them.

Your next challenge is to be able to work out which of the many people who apply can get the job done.

Your primary mechanism for this, after shortlisting/initial interviews, is for each graduate to do a 1 day practical exercise to pull together a simple CRM app that allows creation and browsing of client details. They should have a week notice to prepare themselves for this before doing the test at your office.

You should pay them a straight salary, at the lowest end of the market. Forget anything complex and don't even talk about equity until they have proven themselves invaluable.

[dmlevi]

Monster.com? We never considered that route but It cant hurt to post. I like your thought process. We have a developer from Orbitz on board that will help translate the "simple CRM app" haha ;) but thank you. Do you know what a salary should be for low end market right now? $20hr?

After reading HN for 3 months, I got the feeling developers enjoyed working for an equity bonus. But then again if this is not a partner then that doesnt make sense. Very useful stuff, thanks for your time.

[hoodoof]

Post an article asking HN "what is the low end salary for a junior/graduate programmer in the U.S.".

How much seed money do you have? Do not pay per hour, pay a salary, assuming you have enough money. Ideally you will have enough to employ a low end graduate for 12 months. That is your runway. When that money is gone your startup is gone. Do not be tempted to spend one cent of the money allocated to the graduate salary on anything else.

[hoodoof]

>>>Very useful stuff, thanks for your time.

The price of the advice....... if you find someone using this approach then please do a "Tell HN:" post explaining how you used this approach to find the first developer for your startup.

[dmlevi]

consider it done.