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by naner 5501 days ago
$2,000 is not a "large medical bill" in the US. An unexpected medical problem will likely cost a lot more.
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An appendectomy with an overnight hospital stay (went in at 8pm, left around 3pm the next day) was $24,000.
As a UK resident, I find that distressing. The idea that needing medical treatment might impoverish me or poverty leaves me unable to obtain the treatment I need seems exceedingly cruel.
He's not going to pay $24k. Either he has insurance to cover most of it or he'll just not pay it. Bill collectors can't harass you for medical debts.

Hospitals have to treat you regardless of your ability to pay.

The whole situation is far from optimal though.

We had insurance, although nearly a year later we received a call from the hospital saying that our insurer had refused to pay, and that we'd be responsible for the bill if the insurer didn't come through. The insurance company claimed that the hospital hadn't provided the complete paperwork, and the hospital claimed it had provided the information multiple times.

We received two more calls about it, each about six months apart. It's been a couple of years now, but it still feels like it's hanging out there - that we may get a call at any time claiming that we owe this huge sum of money.

I'll add to that that creditors tend to ignore medical debts (according to a credit analyst I know), and that hospitals tend to cut deals for the under-insured.
Bill collectors can't harass you for medical debts

A Google search lead me to the Illinois State AG's website, which claims bill collectors certainly can attempt to collect medical debts. So your claim might only be true in some states (or none at all...)

That's a really depressingly accurate way of putting it.
Ouch. Is this because you don't have any insurance?
What part of that does insurance play?
I had a problem similar to this about two years ago. 9 hours in the ER on a Friday night to get checked out for a pain cost $13,000. I had to pay around $100 upfront, and then insurance kicked in and took care of the rest.
The way hospital balance sheets work these days, they charge you that much to subsidize the many patients who (a) could not afford health insurance, (b) are unemployed, underemployed, or employed without health insurance benefits, (c) avoided preventative health care and healthy lifestyle choices like most Americans, (d) went to the ER as their primary care provider, long after they should have first visited a doctor about preliminary symptoms but could not afford to go, (e) could not legally be turned away by the ER, and (f) had absolutely no way to pay for their care even if they wanted to. The fact that your insurer had to pay almost $13,000 is the point of the individual mandate in health care reform. Otherwise, the only way to keep ERs from closing (and many ARE closing) is getting people like you and your insurer to subsidize the people that use no insurance, get no preventative care, do not manage symptoms and walk into the ER as disasters.
That is crazy. A couple of months ago I had to go to ER, was there for 2 hours or so, and went home. A week ago I got a bill of £12 for the penicillin they gave me for a week, as that wasn't for inside hospital. I'm not insured (in the UK), and I don't pay taxes (anywhere).
yeah, $2,000 is pretty much just an emergency room visit.