[halbritt]

In my experience, corporate lawyers don't really understand the distinction and will opt for the route of least risk, which generally entails a commercial relationship with the company. Unfortunately, neither Mongo nor Elastic really offer useful commercial relationships. That is, pay them a sum and be free to use the widely adopted open-source version of their thing.

The overhead to those relationships for what they do offer is significant.

[bigiain]

> and will opt for the route of least risk, which generally entails

Choosing something else - at least if you can do it before getting locked in.

[halbritt]

Again, very minor use case. Not worth expending effort on. I attempted to convince the lawyers that we should just yolo it because the product had no actual revenue.

Didn't go well.

[bigiain]

I can get at least a couple of person-weeks worth of dev done for the cost of sending the email that results in attempting to convince the lawyers of _anything_.

I wouldn't even ask for a legal review of this new Elastic License, if I thought I could tear it out for less than 2 dev-months of effort.

[halbritt]

Well, what, then?

SOLR?

[ensignavenger]

Amazon's Open Distro for ElasticSearch is still an open source fork of Elastic Search, so ironically Amazon may be the saviors of Open Source Elastic Search.

[halbritt]

Excellent point.

[freeone3000]

Mongo absolutely offers this. A company I worked for had a contract with them -- these terms are hugely expensive, to the point it was worth switching to the AWS version when we had no AWS services.

[halbritt]

Mongo offers what? A license to use their software and have them not harass me or attempt to upsell me or force me to use their management tooling?

Nah.