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by tus88 1986 days ago
It's not open source though.
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Yes, it is not. But who cares? What I care about as a user is repairability:

* can I inspect source and build it myself?

* can I fix it?

* can I share modifications with others?

Many of the new "cloud protection licenses" offer this, yet they are (by definition) not opensource.

I think this is the right way to look at things, after all, these were the orignal "why" arguments in favour of open source. If we can get the same benefits while also protecting open products from megacorps like AWS, that's a better licence than a true open source licence
> If we can get the same benefits while also protecting open products from megacorps like AWS, that's a better licence than a true open source licence

That's your opinion, of course. IMO, there's a type of magic that happens when software is under a truly non-restrictive license. You get a level of quality and reliability in the software that is unmatched by what you get with any proprietary equivalent.

Unfortunately, most people don't really believe in FOSS. And that's okay. But boy am I getting frustrated with these companies that are happy to preach about how "open source" is amazing, until someone else is making some profit with their software and then suddenly the (extremely vague) restrictive licenses start rolling out.

The only entity who says it's not "open source" is the OSI, which is mostly funded by corporations, who are in the business of cloud computing.
Both the Debian Free Software Guidelines[1] and the GNU Free Software Definition proscribe limiting fields of endeavor. The OSD[3] borrows heavily from the DFSG.

I remember reading (alas, I can't find my source) a spokesperson for the OSI admitting to the existence of licenses that meet the OSD that they don't want to be OSI-approved because they don't add enough value versus the cost of proliferation of licenses that are substantially similar.

[1] https://www.debian.org/intro/free

[2] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw

[3] https://opensource.org/osd

These definitions were written a long ago, in a time when cloud computing wasn't even a buzzword yet.

But I read them and couldn't find anything addressing fields of endeavor. GNU's "four essential freedoms", which imho are a little naive in retrospect, don't say anything about this. They say anyone should be able to "sell copies", but SSPL doesn't disallow this either.

Debian obviously didn't address it either. They clarify: " They can even try to sell it. In practice, it costs essentially no money to make electronic copies of software. Supply and demand will keep the cost down."

I.e. they only allowed it because they thought the free market will take care of it, and didn't imagine how cloud provides will become monopolies of access.

"As a result, you can buy a Debian release on several CDs for just a few USD." - Lol.. that's like trying to apply lessons from the bible to modern life.

Just to broaden the discussion, "fields of endeavor" doesn't just mean cloud services, but also whether you can prevent your software from being used in weapons, or other such morally objectionable applications.

> GNU's "four essential freedoms", which imho are a little naive in retrospect, don't say anything about this.

"The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose."

That clearly includes purpose of running the progam as a cloud service and profiting from selling it SaaS-style to third parties.