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by yulaow 1989 days ago
Honestly after seeing the state of most subreddits (aka they become echo-chamber of whatever the main moderators find "worth of value" and very toxic about whatever is against their idea), community self-moderation seems a total failure.
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Most people are stupid. Therefore I would expect most communities to be moderated horribly. How could it be otherwise if they are moderated by stupid people elected by other stupid people? The good part is that people who are better than average can create their own community which will be better than average. How much better, that only depends on those people.

The alternative is having some kind of elite moderators that moderate all communities. It sets a lower bar on their quality. Unfortunately, it also sets an upper bar on their quality. Everything will be as good as the appointed elite likes it, neither better nor worse.

From the perspective of what the average person sees, the latter is probably better. From the perspective that I am an individual who can choose a community or two to participate in, and I don't care about the rest, the latter is better.

Reddit still relies on human moderators, admins, etc. What I'm talking about is a purely community driven moderation scheme where, through various algorithms, the community dictates what is and isn't acceptable.
Wouldn't that just be essentially upvoting and downvoting and deleting downvoted posts?

That was originally the intent of reddit, that people would downvote unconstructive comments, but that quickly turns into the community "moderating" away anything they disagree with, and enforcing an echochamber.

I don't think communities can have enough objectivity to effectively moderate themselves.

Parler moderated by showing post to 5 random people and taking their result.
That's a great idea, if those people were vetted for being objective. If I posted the communist manifesto, would that be blocked, would I be kicked out?

What about censorship on something like that?

Kicked out, it was heavily right wing community. That was partly point of it.

But even outside of Parler, no human is ever perfectly objective.