[Dumbdo]

Not exactly sure what you are talking about. People are fleeing from Whatsapp because it's owned by Facebook (which has one of the worst privacy reputations), because it's closed source and because facebook can replace your E2EE private key if they want so the E2EE is pretty useless. Facebook could also use the metadata if they want, which is pretty valuable.

Signal on the other hand is a nonprofit run by trusted people like Moxie Marlinspike, it's accessible to casual (non-IT) users as well (unlike XMPP) and it's fully open-source. It also minimizes metadata, like with the Sealed Sender functionality.

[icy]

> trusted people like Moxie Marlinspike

Just out of curiosity and not challenging: what makes Moxie trustworthy?

[adfm]

His code. Go check it out and decide for yourself.

https://github.com/moxie0

[cheph]

So if someone can write good code they cannot be malicious? Not sure we are using the same definition of trustworthy.