[wizzwizz4]

Wars end up with those best at surviving surviving. The ones best at getting allies to protect them, the ones who keep their children alive even at the cost of thousands of others' lives, the ones who groom an ally to throw themselves on the grenade, the ones who climb the power ladder and then use that power to keep themselves safe from the conflict…

War is a terrible selection pressure, if you value the light and good in this world. (Probably) less bad than the ones genocidal dictators apply, given how indiscriminate (and therefore bad at selection) it is, but it's certainly not in the “good” category.

[Razengan]

> Wars end up with those best at surviving surviving. The ones best at getting allies to protect them, the ones who keep their children alive even at the cost of thousands of others' lives, the ones who groom an ally to throw themselves on the grenade, the ones who climb the power ladder and then use that power to keep themselves safe from the conflict…

Yes, natural selection at the civilization level. Those survivors will be the ones to write history and continue the species’ civilization.

Civilization gave rise to the warring forces and allowed them to come into power, and those forces in turn shape civilization.

> it’s certainly not in the “good” category.

Our sentiments don’t matter to the grand picture, which has been painted by thousands of wars and continues to be.

War is certainly not a natural calamity. It’s caused by millions of humans who willingly want it to happen, so maybe we “deserve” it, to be sentimental.

[wizzwizz4]

Next you'll be saying millions of humans want to be addicted to social media. I don't understand how you could even think this in the first place, let alone believe it to be true.

[Razengan]

I mean you believe that human sentiments of “good” and “evil” matter much outside of human heads, or that the world would magically be a much better place if no wars ever happened.

(of course I predict you will cherry pick some wars to be perfectly justified)

[wizzwizz4]

You don't need a Great Stone Tablet to make things worth fighting for.

[Razengan]

And what is “worth”?

You’re just replacing a stone tablet with one in your head.

[machiaweliczny]

Not neceassary it's overall positive. You usually kill best&brightest from oponent side first, so summing over average capability of human population wars can cause regressions.