[nobleach]

Well sure, you could do so much better with a small library like Vert.x (which I love). But getting an entire app framework with config/routing/db connectivity/etc is just so easy with Spring Boot. Plus, you get a vast ecosystem. Now the memory usage and compile times? Yeah, youmightnotneedspringsmemoryoverhead.

[ironmagma]

If someone can buy this argument but not then immediately understand why a library like jQuery or React is popular, that’s a shame. It’s the exact same reasons: maturity, flexibility, and community/precedent.

[nobleach]

It's basically a hard no from me on adding a dependency that buys me next to nothing, and bloats my payload to a customers/users mobile device. In that industry, every byte counts. In backend Java/Kotlin apps? I can pay the extra money for memory usage. I cannot ask my users to do the same.

[ironmagma]

Bundlers these days are very good. Any code that isn’t used is removed with tree shaking/dead code elimination, and React can be swapped with Preact which has a lot smaller bundle size as well.