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by Sacho 1986 days ago
I think you forgot to finish your thought:

- The site is hosted on Yandex

- Yandex is owned by the FSB

- Therefore, visiting the site is unsafe because..? The FSB will embed an exploit in it in attempts to hack you? Because you will divulge private information(beyond playing the game) to the FSB? It's unclear what the threat you are trying to combat is.

This is besides the point(I am ready to believe for the sake of argument that Yandex is indeed owned by the FSB), but the wikipedia page you linked doesn't seem to support your argument. It seems like Yandex is trying to thread the needle between legal law enforcement requests and the safety and privacy of their users. Here's the full quote you ellipsed:

> In June 2019, RBC News reported that Yandex had refused a request by the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) under the Yarovaya law to surrender encryption keys that could decrypt the private data of its e-mail service and cloud storage users. The company argued that it was possible to comply with the relevant law without compromising its users' privacy.[82] Maxim Akimov, Deputy Prime Minister of Russia, said that the government will take action to relieve FSB pressure on the company.[83] Alexander Zharov, head of the Federal Service for Supervision of Communications, Information Technology and Mass Media, subsequently said that Yandex and the FSB had reached an agreement where the company would provide the required data without handing over the encryption keys.[84]

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> I think you forgot to finish your thought

Oh, YEAH!

On December 31, 2020 the Russian government approved a list of Russian programs that must be preinstalled on all mobile devices and computers imported into Russia, including next software:

- Yandex (as search engine), Yandex.Browser (as default browser), Yandex.Maps, Yandex.Disk;

- Mail.Ru, Mail.Ru News;

- ICQ (owned by Mail.Ru);

- VK (VKontakte), OK (OdnoKlasniki);

- Gosuslugi (for communicating with official governmental Portal of state services of Russian Federation);

- MyOffice Documents;

- Kaspersky Antivirus.

This regulation comes into force on April 1, 2021.[0]

Enjoy!

NOTE: For security reasons, keep uMatrix & uBlock Origin turned ON while visiting reference link!

[0] http://publication.pravo.gov.ru/Document/View/00012021010600...

[PDF] http://publication.pravo.gov.ru/File/GetFile/000120210106001...

They are just doing what Google is doing IMHO
Google is private corporation which produces own device & own operating system for them (aka "Android"). Google is not government of USA. US citizens may not buy Google device with preinstalled Google apps.

Russian government does not produces own devices even own operating system, but want preinstall apps developed by russian devs (controlled by FSB RF) on all devices produced by other countries. Russian citizens would not be able to buy any device without preinstalled apps required by Russian government since April 1, 2021.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

True, I guess it's a bad move on both Google and Russia, if what you're saying is true.
> For security reasons, keep uMatrix & uBlock Origin turned ON while visiting reference link!

All it takes to protect oneself against the FSB is turning on uBlock? Really?

Some may remember what a Google team (Project Zero) discovered in China in 2019: the government used several official and private web sites to exploit 0-day vulnerabilities in iphones so that they could track the Uighur people. Apple later confirmed the hacking campaign.

> the Russian government approved a list of Russian programs that must be preinstalled …

Maybe the malicious intent that is heavily suggested here exists, but this list needs some explanation, which I found online.

By the end of 2019, the Russian government decided to promote the Russian software by pre-installing the most popular of them on every device sold. Russian companies were to submit their candidacy, and the government promised it would select the application with the most users during 2020.