[andybak]

> but you will never in a million years convict someone of murder when they were returning fire.

The USA seems to have got itself in a very peculiar place with regards to discharge of firearms by representatives of authority. Certainly in the UK and I think on most other western countries, you don't just shoot wildly into a property because someone inside has discharged a firearm.

It just wouldn't have happened in anything like this way in most other developed countries.

[throwaway894345]

Agreed, but excessive use of force is an altogether different problem than the cited 'race' issues. Indeed, something like 90% of Americans support some kind of policing reform according to a Gallup survey last year. Unfortunately, in America, we have only a ~30% chance of passing a reform that 90% of Americans want passed unless the corporations also want it passed.

[shoemakersteve]

Or the incredibly powerful police unions that lobby politicians.