[jessaustin]

I'd include Max Blumenthal and Ben Norton on the list.

I want to say Glenn Greenwald too, especially for the stuff he did several years ago, but he and Taibbi are sort of occupying the same lane now. I hope he can escape the tomb that "The Intercept" became for him; he should have quit them much earlier.

[chokolad]

> I hope he can escape the tomb that "The Intercept" became for him; he should have quit them much earlier.

He left Intercept 2 months ago. He has a substack newsletter now

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/my-resignation-from-the-int...

[gfodor]

I just glanced at Ben Norton's feed which I've never read before, and "The world's largest systematic violator of human rights (by far), the US government" doesn't exactly leave a glaringly good first impression of dispassionate analysis.

[PixyMisa]

When China is routinely posting "smiley happy genocide" stories to Twitter (check @ChineseEmbinUS if you want to feel ill for some reason), someone calling out the US as uniquely evil means they are either uninformed or deliberately lying.

Absolutely call out the US for the bullshit it does, but whitewashing other countries actions to promote your viewpoint is abhorrent.

[jessaustin]

I live here in USA. I'd like to think I and my many fellow pacifists can do something about our behavior. I have zero effect on China, and most of their more recent supposed misdeeds are straight-up propaganda bullshit anyway. Compare their methods in Africa with ours. We send in AFRICOM, flood the zone with weapons and ammunition, undermine and eventually murder any democratically-elected leader who supports socialism on the level of e.g. Germany, etc. The Chinese hire locals to build factories and then they hire and train more locals to work in those factories.

Any time I hear the word "abhorrent" I think of all the Native Americans, enslaved Africans, Filipinos, Guatemalans, Colombians, Indonesians, Vietnamese, Afghans, etc. whose lives were ground up in the gristmill of USA capitalism.

[cambalache]

It is still pretty much true, so probably that says more about you that about him

[gfodor]

Maybe!

[AnimalMuppet]

Larger than, say, China, with what they're doing to the Uighurs? That's a rather large claim...

[jeffbee]

Glenn Greenwald either one of the most-easily-fooled people in history, or one of the most dishonest. The man is never right about anything. He's wrong about whether water is wet. This tweet being the perfect example.

https://twitter.com/evanchill/status/1349097133186707457

[jessaustin]

That tweet isn't Greenwald; it's an ankle-biter wittily captioning "LOL" a non-linked picture that he apparently copy-pasted all by himself. The first half of the picture is a shot of Greenwald's perfectly factual tweet. [0] The second half is another non-linked shot of another tweet, this one composed by a Twitter user somehow skilled enough to actually link to a gizmodo piece. Examining that, one discovers that the fancy satellite picture is actually an "artist's conception". (Another clue might have been the perfectly regular grid that the parler users were supposedly creating.) The only actual reference to actual locations is the caption "@donk_enby later shared a screenshot showing the GPS position of a particular video, with coordinates in latitude and longitude." [1] Once again, this caption is on a picture without a link. However, if one actually types the pictured coordinates into a map app, one discovers that the hypothetical parler user was terrorizing a general store in Delaware. [2] Hey, they got the timezone right: the Delaware coast isn't that far from DC!

In general, rabble-rousers on the internet don't link to original data, because "easily-fooled people" like yourself will just believe your first impression. And helpfully share that with HN!

[0] https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1348322148704804864

[1] https://gizmodo.com/every-deleted-parler-post-many-with-user...

[2] https://goo.gl/maps/jkTzy46xqPCmsmwn6